Col. Thomas Waters ----Page 5
Col. Thomas Waters and his wife, probably Mary __?, had 7 known children and a question about an 8th. They may have had more, but I was unable to find or document them. The known children were:
1. Philemon " Ferry Phil" Waters, born Feby. 1762. More later.
2. Thomas Waters, born c 1764. (Note: I originally thought the son of Thomas Waters was Thomas Willoughby Waters, but finding an old document, which will be given later I think I was wrong and that Thomas Waters who was the son of Col. Thomas was the Thomas Waters who married in Newberry County ca 1792 and was the father of the Thomas Waters III & Wilkes Waters who married the Stoudemire girl.
3. John Waters, born ca 1765-66. This John married Catherine ___? in Newberry County, South Carolina. He died between 1792 and 1800. Catherine shows a widow in 1800.
4. Elizabeth Waters, born ca 1768. She married Ralph Dodsworth. Her mother Mary gives her and her children, by Deed of Gift ,7 slaves on 23 September 1799.
5. David Waters, born c 1773. He was killed by one of his own slaves in Newberry County, South Carolina on 25 February 1819. More later,
6. Mark Waters born c 1780. He was in Louisiana by 1810.
7. Rosannah Waters, born 1786 . She married John Holley ca 1807. More later. This is my direct line.
8. Lydia Waters, born???. She may have married David Richardson. This needs more research.
By all the information gathered Col. Thomas Waters is last listed in South Carolina on the 30 July 1798 when he buys at the sale of a Rogers estate. On the 23 September 1799 Mary Waters gives Elizabeth Dodsworth 7 slaves. He is not in the 1800 census. I assumed he died c 1799. More information has surfaced in the form of a deed that Thomas Waters made in London, England in 1806 and made legal in 1810. The deed is to the 4 tracts of land that Col. Phil Waters, his brother had surveyed for him after the Revolutionary War. It appears that there was a complete breakdown of Thomas's first family and himself. Probably due to the Cherokee family and also Col. Phil had died 29 March 1796. I'm sure Thomas Waters was treated badly by his patriot neighbors. With the new evidence Thomas Waters went to England about 1799 and never came back. Research is being done on this now.
Col. Thomas Waters lost everything he had in the Revolutionary War. The Georgia Legislature granted him a pardon after the war, but they could not restore his land in Georgia and South Carolina--it had already been sold. He lost 4500 acres of land. His losses that he turned in to the British Government will be given in the next article. However , his brother Col. Philemon Waters was Surveyor in South Carolina and after the war he surveyed Thomas 716 more acres. These are the lands that Col. Phil surveyed for Thomas.
1. 4 January 1786---225 acres on Rocky Creek of Edgefield-Orangeburg ( now Lexington County.)
2. 18 January 1786---100 acres on Rocky Creek, Orangeburg ( now Lexington County )
3. 28 June 1792---226 acres on Cloud's Creek , Edgefield County.
4. 21 April 1792---165 acres on Rocky Creek of Big Saluda.
5. 5 January 1792--109 acres in Pendleton District, SC.(Note: This grant was originally submitted by Philemon Waters in 1789, likely "Ferry Phl". He assigned the rights over to Thomas Waters before the grant was made. Which Thomas this is we don't know. It could have been Thomas Waters, Sr., his son Thomas Waters Jr. or Thomas W. Waters, son of Capt. Bordroyne Waters )
Part of this land is still
in the family. A big part of it fell to "Ferry Phil" as the oldest son
of Thomas. After Ferry Phil's death in 1818 his children went to Alabama.
They sold the land and ferry that Ferry Phil had established in 1788 to
John Holley and his wife Rosanna Waters Holley. She was the youngest child
of Col. Thomas Waters. It was passed down through the Holley Family. It
was passed to George Ray Holley who died in 1994, still living on the same
land. The land will pass to his son William Holley of Rock Hill, South
Carolina at the death of his mother, Mildred Holley. The old Holley-Waters
Cemetery is on this land and it bounds Lake Murry where the Saluda comes
into Lake Murry. The old ferry road is still visible. Just across the river
in Newberry County is the grave of "Ferry Phil" Waters on part of the original
land granted to Ferry Phil He was called " Ferry Phil" to distinguish him
from his first cousin " Sheriff Phil " Waters, son of Col. Philemon Waters.
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